Pre-meeting uplift request.

Get expert opinion. This is the place for new questions to be posted.
45 posts Page 3 of 3
 
 

kallis3

User avatar
Forum Expert
Posts: 77176
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:02 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Post by kallis3 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:35 pm
As Drew says, it's something extra requested by the creditors prior to the meeting, or alternatively, extra payments if you earn more during an IVA.
Sharing from experiences of dealing with debt
The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively.
Bob Marley.
http://kallis3.blogs.iva.co.uk
 
 

Imhotep

User avatar
Posts: 382
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:36 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Post by Imhotep » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:33 pm
As per Drew and Jan's posts :)

It is a bit odd though considering we are going through CCCSVA and we were within the guidelines that they set.
 
 

MelanieGiles

User avatar
Industry Expert
Posts: 47612
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:42 am
Location:

Post by MelanieGiles » Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:08 pm
To DJGriffiths

So surely your managers are taking this up with the TiX staff and referring back to those high level meetings, in the interest of your clients? If so, I cannot understand why the increases are standing.
Regards, Melanie Giles, Insolvency Practitioner
 
 

djgriffiths

User avatar
Posts: 62
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:14 am
Location:

Post by djgriffiths » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:25 pm
They are doing, we just heard back from Tix regarding the HSBC hurdle rate and they have now backed down claiming they did not know.

All information is being collated and sent to the standing committee if increases are requested from within guideline figures.
 
 

Imhotep

User avatar
Posts: 382
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:36 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Post by Imhotep » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:05 pm
Does any of this mean I can appeal against their uplift request on my IVA proposal? :)
 
 

djgriffiths

User avatar
Posts: 62
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:14 am
Location:

Post by djgriffiths » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:12 pm
I'm afraid not. You can appeal against the decision of the creditors meeting if you feel there is a material irregularity - this must be done within 28 days of the meeting. However, in this scenario I am afraid that the uplift will stand
 
 

liamjames

User avatar
Posts: 734
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:58 am
Location:

Post by liamjames » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:27 pm
Our feedback from TiX today has been quite positive. Rather than "tighten up" on expenditure allowances they appear to be trying to be more consistent, and challenging everything that strays above what they'd expect as a matter of course.

TiX now appear to be requesting evidence or explanations for any and all unusual expenditure, which is consistent and fair. As we can see from the large discrepancy in expenditure in older IVAs, this has not always been the case with many creditors and IPs.
Last edited by liamjames on Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Take care,

Liam James
Varden Nuttall
http://www.vardennuttall.co.uk

Read our reviews here: http://www.iva.com/iva_companies/Varden_Nuttall.asp
 
 

MelanieGiles

User avatar
Industry Expert
Posts: 47612
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:42 am
Location:

Post by MelanieGiles » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:47 pm
What HSBC hurdle rate?

Can you explain your comments in your last paragraph Liamjames? I don't understand the point you are making.
Regards, Melanie Giles, Insolvency Practitioner
 
 

djgriffiths

User avatar
Posts: 62
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:14 am
Location:

Post by djgriffiths » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:39 am
Last week, a representative of Tix stated that HSBC have a hurdle rate where they wanted a minimum of 40p in the £ return. As mentioned in my previous post, they have not admitted that this is not the case after it was mentioned to them that Martin Prigent had said this was nonsense
 
 

kallis3

User avatar
Forum Expert
Posts: 77176
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:02 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Post by kallis3 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:48 am
They used to have a 40p hurdle, but I believe that Melanie posted some time ago that it had been removed.
Sharing from experiences of dealing with debt
The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively.
Bob Marley.
http://kallis3.blogs.iva.co.uk
 
 

djgriffiths

User avatar
Posts: 62
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:14 am
Location:

Post by djgriffiths » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:54 am
It had been removed but for some reason some Tix staff tried to bring it back last week without senior managements knowledge!
 
 

Imhotep

User avatar
Posts: 382
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:36 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Post by Imhotep » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:59 am
What a coincidence that our IVA return is to be 40.16 after the TiX uplift.
 
 

liamjames

User avatar
Posts: 734
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:58 am
Location:

Post by liamjames » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:13 pm
That's worrying Imhotep, I hope that the uplift request was still fair and affordable.
Take care,

Liam James
Varden Nuttall
http://www.vardennuttall.co.uk

Read our reviews here: http://www.iva.com/iva_companies/Varden_Nuttall.asp
 
 

liamjames

User avatar
Posts: 734
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:58 am
Location:

Post by liamjames » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:26 pm
Melanie, I've edited my previous response as reading it today I could see how it could be easily misinterpreted. I meant to say that in the past there seems to have been a lot of variety in proposed expenditure, especially in larger IVA companies who deal with more clients, and I respect and welcome the consistency TiX have been showing recently.

I'll blame my cat for jumping on the keyboard!
Take care,

Liam James
Varden Nuttall
http://www.vardennuttall.co.uk

Read our reviews here: http://www.iva.com/iva_companies/Varden_Nuttall.asp
 
 

Imhotep

User avatar
Posts: 382
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:36 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Post by Imhotep » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:41 am
liamjames wrote:

That's worrying Imhotep, I hope that the uplift request was still fair and affordable.
Well, I 'think' it's affordable. I'll let you know in six months :)

Personally I don't feel it was fair at all as we were within CCCS guidelines and CCCSVA were representing us.

If TiX are going to ride roughshod over guidelines outlined by CCCS what is the point of having them?
45 posts Page 3 of 3
Return to “Ask IVA Forum and Industry experts”