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Post by Hyperdrive » Sun May 19, 2013 9:58 pm
Any answer to my question from an expert?
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Mon May 20, 2013 12:33 am
There is no need for this clause. This person is not at risk from the IVA failing, they merely want to offer an alternative solution. To suggest that if the variation terms are not accepted that they be bankrupted is a complete nonsense - and yet the offending clause should definately be removed.
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Post by Hyperdrive » Mon May 20, 2013 6:18 am
Fuzzy, it would be interesting to hear what Payplan have to say about the clause.
 
 

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Post by Pedro25 » Mon May 20, 2013 10:53 am
I made an offer of £8k on a balance of £34k. Rejected counter offer of £9k today accepted
 
 

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Post by PayPlanSamuel » Mon May 20, 2013 2:55 pm
Hi fuzzy_dunlop,

Thank you for your query.
I have today spoken with the IP and specialist variation team at here.
If you are unhappy with any of the variation clauses that have been drawn up you can ask that they are removed.

The clause stated is a standard clause inserted to cover the eventuality that should the full & final be rejected by your creditors and you were not in a position to resume regular monthly contributions, it may result in failure of the arrangement, it won’t necessarily be applicable in this instance.

Please do not hesitate to contact me should you require any further information or assistance.

My e-mail address is: samuel.jepson@payplan.com
Many Thanks
Samuel
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Post by Tina Shortland » Mon May 20, 2013 5:07 pm
Good to see Samuel on here clarifying the point about the clause. Standard clauses can sometimes confuse clients if they actually bear no relevance to the proposal in question.

Fuzzy_dunlor, some people have to offer a F&F because of a negative impact on their circumstances - reduced income, mortgage increase etc where it means their DI has greatly reduced or disappeared, In that case if the F&F was not accepted and no negotiation could be agreed on, then the alternative might be to go bankrupt. AS the others have said, yours is different - you just have a new opportunity to settle early. Fingers crossed for a positive outcome for you, and what a lovely friend you have!
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Post by fuzzy_dunlop » Mon May 20, 2013 8:47 pm
Spoke to payplan this afternoon and they have assured me that BR will not be an issue in the event of my f&f being rejected due to the fact I have enough surplus to cover my monthly payments .
The clause apparently is intended for people who have very little or nothing to offer in the event of rejection .
Tbh im still a bit peeved with this as anyone who has or is in debt will vouch that things like this send worry and stress levels through the roof.

Possibly in future payplan should look at this one size fits all clause as it must cause needless anguish when a simple bit of admin would make things clearer.

Thanks to everyone who has replied on this it made my monday more bearable
 
 

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Post by Foggy » Mon May 20, 2013 8:50 pm
If it is not an issue they will be happy to remove it -- after all -- it is YOUR variation, not theirs !
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Post by MelanieGiles » Tue May 21, 2013 1:05 am
Therefore the clause is not relevant to you and should be removed. It is your variation proposal, as Foggy has correctly highlighted, so instruct them to remove the clause from the offer forthwith, and before the paperwork is issued to creditors.
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Post by Hyperdrive » Tue May 21, 2013 3:49 am
Thanks for letting us know Fuzzy and I`m pleased Samuel clarified matters.
Congratulations Pedro[:)]Out of interest how does the figure of £9k compare to the sum of payments remaining in the arrangement?
 
 

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Post by fuzzy_dunlop » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:49 pm
Had my variation meeting this morning and my f/f was accepted hasn't sunk in that its almost over yet.
I would just like to thank everyone on the forum from the experts to the everyday posters as I don't think I would have made it without your advice and the information I have taken in over hundreds of topics i have read.
I would also like to thank payplan and in particular Julie Kerr my last case officer (a credit to your company) for everything they have done to help me it hasn't been the smoothest of rides but we got there in the end.

For the record my creditors accepted 27p in the pound f/f as aposed to 32p full term .

Had debt problems for almost a decade now so being debt free will take time to sink in .
Once again thanks everyone your lifesavers.

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Post by Foggy » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:57 pm
Excellent news Fuzzy -- well done :-)
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Post by PayPlanSamuel » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:58 pm
Great news fuzzy_dunlop,

Thank you for your positive feedback!

I have told your Case Officer of your kind words and she expresses her gratitude and well wishes in return.
On behalf of Payplan I also would like to express all the best wishes for your (debt free!) future. :)
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Post by Michael Peoples » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:59 pm
Congratulations from me too and well done to Payplan.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:59 am
A case of All's Well that Ends Well once more. Glad to see this matter has been resolved to your satisfaction Fuzzy.
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