What are the chances of this F&F offer being accepted ?

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noshiela

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Post by noshiela » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:00 am
Thy have asked for my paperwork before the end of april..suppose thy will then take 3 months from there..great.. :cry:

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Post by Foggy » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:03 am
Payplan are, unfortunately, one of those who work to their own timetable, despite the terms agreed.
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Post by bex820 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:16 am
I gave them all the documents they needed the day after making the offer and they still took this long. Then they said it was in 'checking' and should be out in 3days but a week and a half later when I called them it had been final checked and just sat there for the duration collecting dust. Annoyed isn't the word. Really hope they treat your case better

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Post by Foggy » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:44 am
Unfortunately we have a "perfect storm" situation: They are undergoing an internal reshuffle, looking to lose a high number of staff, may change business direction ( or disappear) .. on top of the usual problems caused by having to few IP's for too many clients.
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Post by noshiela » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:48 am
Thanks bex! Does the method they use to work out equity vary from client to client??

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Post by bex820 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:58 am
I wouldn't have thought so. They just asked for valuation and mortgage redemption figures from us. That's what they base it on. I'm sure they'd use same method for everyone or it wouldn't be fair.

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Post by Foggy » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:04 am
bex820 wrote:
I wouldn't have thought so. They just asked for valuation and mortgage redemption figures from us. That's what they base it on. I'm sure they'd use same method for everyone or it wouldn't be fair.

Most use the method in the Protocol used when drafting the proposal and this is the same across different firms. Some firms ( GT / Aperture for instance) use a different method, but have to use whatever was in the proposal if they have bought in cases from other firms -- so, if they have proposals drafted by different companies on their books they will use different methods for those different clients.

As far as I am aware Payplan use the commonly accepted "usual", which is fairer to the client (us).
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Post by bex820 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:07 am
Thanks Foggy

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Post by noshiela » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:40 am
So stressful.. I've been in this almost 4 years can't wait for it to end..

If thy do accept F&F, does that mean any extra money earnt or lottery winning (I wish!) is no longer due in??

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Post by Foggy » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:07 am
noshiela wrote:
So stressful.. I've been in this almost 4 years can't wait for it to end..

If thy do accept F&F, does that mean any extra money earnt or lottery winning (I wish!) is no longer due in??

When the F&F is accepted, you pay the money over and have to wait a coupls of months for the completion formalities -- once the completion certificate is issued windfalls are yours. Once you have made the F&F payment extra earnings are yours right away. (earned income and unearned income are treated differently from each other).
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Post by noshiela » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:47 am
Thank u foggy..rely appreciate your help

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Post by bex820 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:31 am
Hi again,

My variation proposal shows that bankruptcy would cost creditors 15k but does this sound realistic?
It means estimated dividend to creditors would be 0% if they opted for this versus 3% if they went with our offer bt I can't help feeling like they might look at that figure and know differently.
What do you think?

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Post by kallis3 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:36 am
You can (and should) get Payplan to remove the BR clause and they will do.
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Post by bex820 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:42 am
It's not a bankruptcy clause. It's a comparison between the options. It shows it will cost them 15k to bankrupt is but if they accept our offer they will have 3% bit do you think they will believe it will cost them that much to bankrupt us?

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Post by kallis3 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:00 am
As far as I am aware it is the same thing - they tried it with me and I got them to remove it. It would cost them a lot of money to make you bankrupt!
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