Payplan 2nd review, not needed?

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Post by k24civic » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:47 am
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I was supposed to have my 2nd year review this week, but I lost my job and am unemployed, i emailed my case officer this and she said i dont need to do a I&E form. I double checked with her, she said to let her know once i get employment. I am not 100% if this is okay way?
My dads been kind enough to support me during this bad patch. On a brighter note i just passed a MOT tester course..Lets see how it goes..!!
What is worrying me that since i dont have to do a review this year..Will i get a nasty suprise later, saying i failed my IVA or anything along them lines..Seems like what matters is that i am keeping up with the payments.
I was insisting to do a I&E, but they said its not needed...
Anyone can shed any light please
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Post by Michael Peoples » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:56 am
You should really do an I&E and have a payment break rather than have your father maintain your payments. Given that you are now unemployed would he be in a position to offer a full and final settlement offer which should be accepted by creditors?
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Post by liamjames » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:01 am
Hi there!

In your proposal it will state how often your Supervisor needs to conduct a review of your income and expenditure. If you believe that he has not performed this properly, you should contact him in writing to suggest that this is performed, just so you have it on record.

I would have thought that it would be policy to conduct a review whenever your situation changes, but maybe your IP is waiting for your circumstances to stabilise and for you to get new employment before conducting a review.

In any case, as long as you are complying with the requests of the Supervisor, there is no reason for your IVA to be failed. And if you are in breach of the terms (whether on purpose or accidentally) you will be given plenty of time to rectify this before the IVA fails, and you will receive written notice in advance.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:01 am
I agree that the review should still occur, but think that if your Dad is happy to help you on a temporary basis then this does avoid disturbing the running of the IVA.
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Post by k24civic » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:06 am
Michael Peoples wrote:

You should really do an I&E and have a payment break rather than have your father maintain your payments. Given that you are now unemployed would he be in a position to offer a full and final settlement offer which should be accepted by creditors?
Hi, thanks for that..I did insist on a I&E...But they seem adement that i dont need to until i get a job. I guess there waiting for things to stabilise too..Any jobs going???
I asked for F&F settlement, seems too high, i just hope this unemployment is short term , once i finished my IVA will deffo treat dad for all his help..
I mean besides feeling guilty as hell for asking my dad for help. Is there anything wrong with family support for the IVA?
 
 

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Post by k24civic » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:09 am
MelanieGiles wrote:

I agree that the review should still occur, but think that if your Dad is happy to help you on a temporary basis then this does avoid disturbing the running of the IVA.
Hi Melanie , i thought the same
Ofcourse its temporary. But no review this year seems odd, i insisted on doing it..But they said no need..I got copy of emails for future reference if needed. I asked 2 people at payplan today both said same.
 
 

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Post by k24civic » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:11 am
liamjames wrote:

Hi there!

In your proposal it will state how often your Supervisor needs to conduct a review of your income and expenditure. If you believe that he has not performed this properly, you should contact him in writing to suggest that this is performed, just so you have it on record.

I would have thought that it would be policy to conduct a review whenever your situation changes, but maybe your IP is waiting for your circumstances to stabilise and for you to get new employment before conducting a review.

In any case, as long as you are complying with the requests of the Supervisor, there is no reason for your IVA to be failed. And if you are in breach of the terms (whether on purpose or accidentally) you will be given plenty of time to rectify this before the IVA fails, and you will receive written notice in advance.
Thats a relief, I mean its no fault of mine here..Life sucks right now!! I asked them twice today, and actually one lady there was the same person who did my review last year..So she knew me well...I dont know!! Not burying my head in sand..
 
 

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Post by liamjames » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:13 am
It's very common, but often creditors aren't really that keen on it and isn't really fair on you or your father. If things are stable and you still need help, it is better for all concerned if you ask your Supervisor to suggest a variation to reduce your monthly contributions to an amount that you can afford without any assistance.
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Post by Michael Peoples » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:18 am
There is absolutely no harm in family help for short term problems but unless you find a job your father could be paying for some time. If the settlement figure you were given is more than your father can raise you could offer what he can afford even if this leads to a reduction in dividend. As you have lost your job creditors may be amenable to a settlement rather than a failed IVA and bankruptcy.
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Post by k24civic » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:19 am
liamjames wrote:

It's very common, but often creditors aren't really that keen on it and isn't really fair on you or your father. If things are stable and you still need help, it is better for all concerned if you ask your Supervisor to suggest a variation to reduce your monthly contributions to an amount that you can afford without any assistance.
I just hope i get something soon...they seem very okay about this and said just to keep them updated..
I am sure once back in employment i will be okay again...
 
 

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Post by k24civic » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:25 am
Michael Peoples wrote:

There is absolutely no harm in family help for short term problems but unless you find a job your father could be paying for some time. If the settlement figure you were given is more than your father can raise you could offer what he can afford even if this leads to a reduction in dividend. As you have lost your job creditors may be amenable to a settlement rather than a failed IVA and bankruptcy.
That makes sense..But £20K is the F&F settlement figure i got given today. I need to talk to family this weekend, i doubt it will be possible, i rather dad helped me out now temporarily then i hopefully got a job soon and return his favours when IVA completed!...Asking him for so much cash, i dont have the guts or face to be honest...would feel bad....ok agree i feel terrible now..But i am sure after IVa i can return his favours which are keeping me afloat now..

About this I&E i have emailed them 3rd time now, if they say the same, that its not needed. I will take it as there answer?...Guess once i got a job, will do it then..Depends when though!!
 
 

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Post by k24civic » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:06 pm
I am confused, i cant figure yet by talking to them if by them not doing the annual review, will this affect my IVA..They said they will not do a review until i am employed
Not sure if they mean my payments to IVA now are not valid ..I am pretty sure as everyone is saying here that a review has to be done..But they wont do it...So not sure what the real meaning is. Does no review mean IVA in breach? or can the IP decide if a review is needed...And now saying i havent got reviewed end of 2nd year..Does that mean i am in 3rd year now? or somewhere in space! lol
I dont see why they dont want to review , regardless of being unemployed or not...beyond me
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:17 pm
Perhaps they mean that as long as you are maintaining your payments, then they won't be altering them.

Your payments will be valid as long as you continue to make them.

It appears to me like Payplan are being quite sympathetic to your situation.

I would contact them again and ask them if everything is ok with the IVA.

Have you checked on Justabank to see how things are going?
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Post by k24civic » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:30 pm
kallis3 wrote:

Perhaps they mean that as long as you are maintaining your payments, then they won't be altering them.

Your payments will be valid as long as you continue to make them.

It appears to me like Payplan are being quite sympathetic to your situation.

I would contact them again and ask them if everything is ok with the IVA.

Have you checked on Justabank to see how things are going?

That really makes sense. I think they are...I have emailed them almost 5 times + today , they have got back promptly
I just asked them right now the same things you put across..I hope its the case..Will write here once they get back...
I saw macdonalds advertising, gonna apply there if its needed!

I asked her exactly the same question" is everything okay with my IVa"..waiting there reply...

I never tried justabank...

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Post by kallis3 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:42 pm
Get registered on Justabank, it is really good. You can see exactly what is happening with your IVA.
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