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Post by rockbottom » Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:02 am
Hi everyone

after a bit of advice or opinions again, what are the reasons for contacting a few iva firms before deciding which one, other then to find one you feel comfortable with, do all IPs right the same proposal or do they vary with say how much experience they have? do creditors just look at the figures you owe, x ammount and you can pay x ammount back and make their decision on that? could an iva be approved from one IP but be rejectd by another because of the way its written or is there a special way that all IPs have to write them and do all IPs only put through proposals that they think will be accepted?

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Post by Moneystinks » Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:14 am
Hi rockbottom

The impression I am getting is that the proposal is written for you and your circumstance individually although they follow similar guidelines - I might be wrong.

I am with Melanie and she does from what people say on here seem a bit unique in her approach because it is a more personal service her team offer and their relationship with the creditors is good. I think this is what gets more IVA's accepted and seen through to completion. I think the creditors need to feel secure with the IP as well. We need to remember although it is difficult that this is a 2 way thing.

We chose Melanie and her team as we are going to have to deal with each other for 6 years this is a long time and I personally would be driven made by a larger organisation.

Good luck. XX
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Post by size5 » Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:27 am
Quite a few questions there, so I will try and address them individually.

You should speak to more than 1 firm mainly to make sure that you have been made aware of ALL options open to you. It is a rare case indeed that has only 1 option available, so feeling comfortable and making your own mind up after being armed with the full facts is very important.

In theory, give or take a little bit, IP's should be writing near enough the same proposal. There are accepted norms and guidelines that we are subject to but that doesn't mean that things are set in stone. It is inevitable that figures may differ a little depending on who you talk to, but if the same facts are presented to all providers they shouldn't vary wildly. It should be noted here, though, that some providers will not look at IVA's below a minimum payment level as it is not cost effective for them, typically that may be say £225 or £250 per month. Others will be able to look at lower contribution levels, the danger there being that some cases may be rejected by some firms but accepted by others, which is another reason to look around.


On the last point, yes, an IP will not put a proposal forward unless they think that it stands a very good chance of being accepted.

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Post by rockbottom » Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:38 am
thanks guys

size 5 when you say 225 to 250 is not cost effective and could be rejected, i have worked mine out as best i can and i think i would be offering a full and final at 31p to 33p, do you think that is a low offer

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Post by size5 » Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:57 am
To clarify that point, some firms cannot look at lower contributions based IVA's as their fee schedule will not leave enough of a dividend to make the IVA viable.

For a very simple example, client X has £30k of debt and approaches 2 IP's for advice. His disposable income is calculated at £200 per month.

Firm A has a fee schedule of £6k and firm B has fees of £4k.

60 times £200 is £12000, so with firm A the return is £6k or 20% dividend, with firm B the return is £8k or 26.66% dividend, thereby meaning that on paper at least firm B's proposal is more viable.

Full and finals are a different matter of course, so if you are already in an IVA you should speak to your IP directly, if not then, again, seeking professional advice is the way forward to look at your options in full.

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Post by rockbottom » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:12 am
thanks i think i get that point now, so when ringing some iva firms are you meant to ask them what they charge or would that be classed as rude, will they tell you if you ask? if i were to be accepted by an iva firm for a f & f i have roughly worked my payments to creditors out on between 4k to 6k fee for the IP , does that sound about right.

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Post by size5 » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:39 am
I would certainly suggest that you ask about fees, any reputable firm will have no problem at all with discussing that with you.

I can't really answer the question re a F&F without a lot more info, but if it were a case whereby the ONLY funds you can pay into a proposal were in the form of a lump sum, and you could afford no monthly contributions at all, then the fees would probably be easier in as much as you would have a nominees fee and a much smaller supervisors fee.

Be aware that if you CAN afford monthly contributions on top of your lump sum then you will almost certainly be asked to pay on a monthly basis as well.
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Post by rockbottom » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:42 pm
thanks size 5

unfortunately i cannot afford monthly contributions aswell, i really wish i could, thanks for advice, i will now continue to mull.

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