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Post by smr » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:35 pm
Hi, i have visited this site many times and read with interest everyone's posts. its given me alot to think about. I am currently about £70K in debt and think the best way out would be an IVA. I am also splitting from my husband as things haven't been going well for some time, he is also in debt but won't face up to it andbe realistic about what we can afford.

We have a joint mortgage and about £90K worth of equity,, we are planning to put the house on the market and when sold I would get half. I borrowed £30K from my mum and we agreed that when the house was sold she would get her money back. If I go in for the IVA and all goes well I would be able to put in the rest of the equity abd pay a regualr amount.

My question really relates to my mum's money - what proof would I need to provide that she gave me the money and that I agreed to give it back to her once we sold the house ? I know I can't give preference to her under Insolvency law, but we do have a written agreement that we both signed.
 
 

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Post by iva_squirrel » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:52 pm
Good afternoon smr,


Thank you for the post and welcome to the forum.

I believe, even if you had a written agreement, you would still be giving her preference. I am interested in reading Melanie's reply to this question.

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Post by MelanieGiles » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:06 pm
Hi smr

Sorry, but unless your mother took a charge over your property in consideration of her lending the money, she is just another of your unsecured creditors. You should not therefore pay her in preference to the others, and Julia is quite right with her advice.

Regards, Melanie Giles, Insolvency Practitioner for over 20 years.

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Post by smr » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:57 am
Hi Melanie

As I thought - I have gone back and checked the paperwork and it does seem that a charge was placed on the property so at least she will get her money back as she is a secured creditor.

I also have another question. When hubby and I split I will move back to a house I currently own soley in my name. The mortgage is about £93K and the value is about £100K. If IVA did not go according to plan I would seriously consider the BR route, is it likely that with so little equity would I need to sell my house? In a way I am not really bothered as it is only bricks and mortar after all and I haven't lived there for several years as it's been rented out. The main thing is clearing as much as I can of my debts and living life without the fear of the postman or the telephone !
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:05 am
I doubt that you would need to sell your house, but you would need to raise the beneficial interest of £7,000. Could you persuade your Mum to give you this from the money she will receive as a secured creditor?

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Post by smr » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:10 am
Hi Melanie

Probably - mums are usually good at this sort of thing. Even at 34 I can still turn to her. Guess that won't change ! I need to read up some more on the BR route to see what is involved. I understand the IVA process quite clearly having read this site and loads of forums / blogs.

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Post by iva_squirrel » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:49 pm
Good evening smr,

You are right about mothers!!! Bankruptcy in somecases is not as bad as it sounds.

• The responsibility for paying your debts will be away from you

• You will normally be Bankrupt for just 12 months. After that period you will be discharged.

• If you can afford to do so, you will have to make monthly payments towards your debt for 3 years. However, after these payments are completed, any outstanding debt will be written off by law.

• If you declare bankruptcy, you will be allowed to keep reasonable household items. You will not have to give up reasonable goods such as your washing machine, fridge freezer television and DVD player.

However, as discussed, you should be mindful of the following:

• If you are declared bankrupt, your name and address will be published once in the local newspaper and the London Gazette

• The record of your bankruptcy remains on your credit file for 6 years meaning it will be difficult to obtain further credit during this time. In reality many people are able to borrow again within this period, particularly for a mortgage.

• You will have to give up your share of any equity you have in a property. This may result in the sale of the property unless a friend or family member can raise a similar sum on your behalf which can be given to the Court in lieu of your equity.

• You may have to trade in a car worth more than £1500

• You will be unable to act as a company director or be involved with the management of a limited company while you are bankrupt

WHAT WILL BANKRUPTCY COST?

In order to declare your self bankrupt, you will need to pay Court Fees. These normally total a one off charge of between £460-£490. However, you may be eligible for a reduction of you currently claim certain benefits.


WHAT SHOULD I DO NEXT

If you decided to proceed with bankruptcy, you should take the following steps:

1. Identify the local County Court and Tel Number
To declare bankruptcy, you will have to attend the County Court local to where you live. You can find out where this is through the local telephone book, directory enquiries or by searching on the Court Finder web site: http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/HMCSCourtFinder/

2. Contact Court and Request Bankruptcy Application Form
Telephone the local County Court and ask them to post you an application form. The Court will do this free of charge. At the same time, confirm the charge with the Court (normally £460/person) and whether you need to make an appointment or whether you can just turn up at the Court at any time.

3. Complete the Bankruptcy Petition Document & Bankruptcy Application Form
Bankruptcy application forms are c30 pages in length. They need to be completed fully and correctly. This will normally take between 1-2 hours. Make a photocopy of the completed forms for future reference.

Note: The Court is unable to give advice on completing your Bankruptcy application forms. If you require additional advice and help to do this, Thomas Charles can help. You will be charged a fee of £200 for this service.

4. Present Completed Application Form at Court
Once your forms are completed, you must take the forms together with your fee in person to the Court. Once at court the following process will happen:

• A Clerk of the Court will take the fee, ensure that the application forms are correctly completed and witness your signature on the Petition Document.
• You will meet with a District Judge (private room). The Judge will ensure that you are eligible for Bankruptcy (i.e. insolvent) and will determine whether bankruptcy is appropriate. If the Judge agrees with the Petition, they will declare you bankrupt the same day.
• You will be asked to make an appointment with the Official Receiver. Depending on the Court, this may be on the same day or a different future date.

5. Meeting The Official Receiver (OR)
The Official Receiver (OR) (or Trustee in Bankruptcy) is responsible for deciding decide on a number of things:

• How long your bankruptcy will last. This will normally be 12 months although the OR has discretion to shorten or lengthen this.
• If you can afford to make a monthly payment towards your debt and if so how much (known as an Income Payment Order which will normally last 36 months)
• If you have any assets or property, how these will be treated. I.e. if and when they will be sold to realise the asset value for the creditors

I hope you find this information useful.

Kind regards,

Julia Simavi

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