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Post by ytsejam » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:39 pm
My wife and I have just had our IVAs approved. But with HSBC as the major creditor (inxs of 50% of the debt) at a dividend of 31 an 33p respectively!!!

This migh tbe a first post, but I have found the answers to a lot of questions in this forum - so thank you all.

One thing puzzles me though - our IVAs do not have the 'overtime' clause in them. The chairman told me that any additional earnings would be ours, but there is a clause requiring notification of additional income. Slightly confused, but at the end of the day, it is not that difficult to notify my IP of any extra earnings, but I would appreciate some thoughts on this!
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:48 pm
Hi, welcome and congratulations!

You are lucky not having the overtime clause, but I'm not sure about the additional income bit!
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Post by luluj » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:17 pm
Check the chairmans report when you get it - overtime might be mentioned in that ! Surprised if you get to keep to all the extra money !
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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:37 pm
Can you post the exact wording so we can advice further?
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Post by ytsejam » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:21 pm
the exact text is:

'You must inform the supervisor at any time if you are in reciept of additional income. You must come to a satisfactory arrangement as to what increased amount should be paid into the arrangement'.

The chairmans report made no mention of o/t - only mods were in respect of IP fees and pension payments (and the frequency of payment of dividends).

Also, the Student Loans Company didn't bother to vote on my IVA. They had a controlling interest. Very strange...
 
 

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Post by Lisa2009 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:26 pm
I could be wrong but i would assume OT is additional income???
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Post by ytsejam » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:29 pm
That's my first thought, but my IP's exact words were - 'That would be yours' when I asked about o/t and bonus clauses.

At the end of the day, it is not much trouble to tell them, and work it out from there.
 
 

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Post by Lisa2009 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:30 pm
Well, i would deffinitely want that in writing to cover my own back just incase they try to get you on it at review time.
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Post by Skippy » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:35 pm
I agree with Mrs Skint. Email your IP and ask them to confirm in writing so you don't get any nasty surprises!
 
 

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Post by Julie » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:39 pm
I agree, get it confirmed. Hubby's report didn't have a clause re: overtime but then again he doesn't get paid for working extra.

Better to know where you stand from the start?
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:22 pm
That clause is very woolly - and could be interpreted in a lot of different ways - but at the end of the day it is your own IP's interpretation which counts.
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Post by luluj » Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:14 am
I would write to your IP mentioning the fact that you have been told by XXX from their company that overtime is not taken into account, and all monies is yours to do with what you like....that way if they then turn the decision around you can argue the point that you have been given differing info from the company etc......
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Post by David Mond » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:14 pm
Overtime is additional income and at the end of the day according to the terms of your proposal you are to come to a satisfactory arrangement. The worse case scenario woould be that you keep the fi.rst 10% and hand over 50% of the balance - effectively you hand over a total of 45%. But see what your IP puts in writing following the comments you say he said to you. Let us know what happens
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Post by kallis3 » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:36 pm
I hope you manage to get it cleared up, nothing worse than a confusing clause!
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Post by ytsejam » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:11 pm
Sorry to bump this back up, but some resolution to the lack of clarity.

It turns out that there is an overtime clause in the court papers, which is a straight 50%. Worst case scenario, but there is still an incentive to get the extra money to build up an emergency fund / birthday and xmas contingency.

Thanks for your thoughts on this.
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